Generally speaking, these names indicate a Gedeckt of large scale and loud tone, found at 16' and 8' pitch. Skinner used the name briefly: Gross Gedackt: an 8' stopped wood pipe; a full-toned Flute on the Solo division; developed and discarded by the author. Originally an attempt at a French Horn. The mouth is substantially above its lower speaking length. The tone is too thick to blend satisfactorily with other voices.

Pileata Magna 8', Fanfare; Convention Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, USA; Midmer-Losh. Grossgedact 8', manual; Pfarrkirche, Meudt, Germany; Dreymann 1858.

Grossgedackt 16', Hauptwerk; St. Valentinus Kirche, Kiedrich, Germany; Hooghuys 1860. Grobgedackt 8', manual; Marktkirche, Halle, Germany; Reichel 1664 (restored 1972).

Grob Gedackt 8', Hauptwerk; Stiftskirche, Römhild, Thuringia, Germany; Weisse 1680-82 (restored 1980).